B Money Speaks On Charles Beat Jackin’ Black Spade

Charles, Rhymefest & Black Spade

Now if you were a fan of PMD in it’s hey day you got to see me vent about young Charles Hamilton and what I think about his rap. Over the weekend I got word about dude swagger jacking a track from Black Spade and then not owning up to it. This only made my disdain stronger for the former Heroin addict. Anyway my dude SUPER PRODUCER B Money (he’s gonna get mad that I wrote that) wanted to put his two cents out there bout the situation so here it goes.

B$: I wanted to take some time to address a really wack situation that happened to a good friend of mines. My man Black Spade aka Stoney Rock is an up and coming MC/Artist/Producer from St. Louis Mo. He recently went down to SxSW to enjoy the showcases, perform at some himself & get his mingle on when he ended up being artistically violated by another “up & coming” artist. Now apparently Charles Hamilton was also in Austin performing and taking part in the festivities and decided to perform a song he has out now entitled “Shining”. My homie Black Spade happened to be at the venue, in the audience and when the track came on he started to get a familiar ring in his ear. After a quick listen he realized that the actual track Charles was rhyming over for the song was one that he himself had constructed. Now the rest of the story should be told by the man himself which you can read below:

Black Spade: (Yo! So this is the beat Charles Hamilton CLAIMS he created. In short, when I was in Austin to perform and check out SxSW, I caught his set. He performed one of his tracks, “Shinin’”, which I thought was dope. However, come to find out the instrumental that he used for that track is a beat I produced a while back. After he was done performing, I let him know that I produced the beat and asked him where he got it from. In the back of my mind I know that the only place he really could have gotten it from was off my MySpace page. When I told him I produced the track and liked his lyrics, he still continued to say that HE produced the track with some dude….FALSE. He said he cleared the sample and that he is the one singing ‘Shinin’ in the background and also that his homeboy was playing the keys on the track.

Now mind you, the background ‘Shinin’ vocals that he claims he laid were not laid in the studio at all. I know this because I sampled them by singing directly into the MPC.

Basically, the Frankie Beverly & Maze sample at the beginning is from when I put the beat up on MySpace. The whole point of putting that part in the track was to show that I was about to produce, from that part, my own version of the sample. So, if you don’t hear the Frankie Beverly & Maze sample in the MP3 I am sending you, that is why.

Please Blog, a brotha needs his credit…

Black Spade aka Stoney Rock)

B$: Now I’ve know Black Spade for many years from coming up in the music scene in St. Louis & I know how hard he has worked to get to this point in his career as an artist and a producer so it hurts me when something like this happens. It isn’t so bad to have to hear your track being used by another artist but when you have an opportunity to step to that artist and say ” hey that was me…I did that” and the man in question has the nerve to deny it PLUS make up a lame “lie” about how the track came about then its almost like having someone kick dirt in your face “artistically” speaking. We all know the music business is a shady one.Now, I myself am a producer, and I’ve had plenty of people use similar sample sources for different songs that I’ve placed. I know how fickle the fans of the culture can be but this is not a case of two dudes flipping the same beat. This is straight up “jacking”. I feel like dude should get his credit and he is honestly owed an apology for being lied to. This isn’t some bragadocio “we need to take it to the streets” bullshit. Dudes are grown men, The people can listen to the track for themselves and see that its the same beat. Fix tha shit…

Compare For Yourself Dukes:

Shining by Black Spade

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Shine by Charles Hamilton

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I personally think he jacked it…..discuss.

Bonus: Black Spade – Evil Love Video

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7 Responses to “B Money Speaks On Charles Beat Jackin’ Black Spade”

  1. whoa Says:
    March 30th, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    Now this lil nigga is still denying he jacked the beat. Only one problem there…Spades voice is allllll up in the HOOK!!

  2. g.wiz Says:
    March 30th, 2009 at 6:48 pm

    It only took about 30 sec. to answer that. Being that I used to play that Maze toon at parties back in the day, I really know the song as well as Frankies’ voice. Adding to that I have had Black Spade as a guest on my radio show a few times and I know that distinctive voice of his when he sings. I know that is his voice. If dude doesn’t fess up with a personal and or public apology…call your lawyer!!!

  3. S. Mathis Says:
    March 30th, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    The cream always rises to the top and nothings come of the oven with this guys name on it like EVER.

  4. » Blog Archive » Interview With Black Spade About “Shining” Track Says:
    March 30th, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    [...] posting the Black Spade situation earlier a friend of mine sent me a post from Charles clearly upset and venting on his blog. He went as far [...]

  5. tymusic Says:
    March 31st, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    black spade has one more new fan ……. me
    the dude is someting else and charles hamilton is part of the new problem in hip hop……
    no respect for the music… damn!!!
    well done blackspade

  6. sweeneykovar Says:
    March 31st, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    i’m all the way on your side on this.

  7. christian Says:
    September 16th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    dang i got mad love for stoney rock glad they couldn’t get away with it.

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